Area restrictions and penalty

GNandGS · Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:48 pm Post subject: Area restrictions and penalty

In some similar games there were areas you could not go into or could not stay in for long periods of time. I want to do something similar...

An example, but NOT what I want:
Troops could not enter a specific area, say a Galaxite area, or their health would decrease - it could be a continual thing or a one time descrease. If a contual decrease (what I really want) then a "safe" area needs to be determined to stop the reduction.

Make sense? Im pretty sure I can do the one time thing but how to do it on only the unit in the specified area?

S

Verdagon · Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:03 pm Post subject:

I don't think that's possible... there's no trigger to modify health. Wish there was though.

crakerz · Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:38 pm Post subject:

How about this: Put towers in the areas you wish to be "restricted" that are a side that isn't a participant, such as side neutral. (You will also need power and a SC). Set the allies like so:

Side1, Side2, Side3, Side4 allies with SideNeu
SideNeu allies with SideNeu

Then, whenever units enter the area, they will be fired on, but can't fire back!

I've used this to great effect in several levels.

You can also create triggers that cause a unit to leave an area as soon as they enter it that make it virtually rtestricted. If you need examples, let me know.

GNandGS · Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:16 pm Post subject:

Ok, Ive got something working but I did it wrong so you might say, "it almost works".

Ive got areas that trigger a condition - limiting the building of structures/people. What I havent figured out is how to turn it off! I *think* triggers were the wrong thing to use... are they just processed in order? A "one time use" type of thing? If so, then I'll have to hit three more triggers before they turn off - to never come on again.

Im looking to set a condition that is always looked for... "if this, then that" dumbed down so I understand it.

SoLan · Very Active User Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 183

GNandGS · Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:46 am Post subject:

That was it! The destructions for that were not part of the trigger docs I was reading...

Its working! Of course I get past that and now it locks up and I have to reset after a few minutes. doh!

S

GNandGS · Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:52 pm Post subject:

Ok all is great, just how I want it... however, I am unable to end the mission. I tried setting it up to look for 0 bad guys but its not working. Any thots?

S

SoLan · Very Active User Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 183

GNandGS · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 1:07 pm Post subject:

Sorry about thatt...

This does not work:
Side4 owns exactly 0 of "everything" = end mission; win
Set formal objective status 1 to success

Err? Wha? Only thing I can figure is having things selected that were never built... or surely since I placed the galazite from Side4's pallet I dont have to mine it all?

Maybe a competing trigger? If you are not afraid of a "spoiler" I could just send you the file.

S

crakerz · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 6:25 pm Post subject:

GNandGS · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 8:47 pm Post subject:

I may have stumbled accross something in transcribing this text.

Currently it reads...

For Side4

Conditions:
Side4 owns Exactly 0 Security Guard, Rocket Trooper, Corporate Raider, Eagle, Broadsword, Hydra, Liberator, Bullpup, Dominion, Power Generator, Galaxite Processor, Galaxite Warehouse, Human Resource Center, Vehicle Transport Station, Surveillance Center, Research Center, Headquarters, Gatling Tower, Rocket Tower, Andy, Cyclops, Replicator, Fox

Actions:
End Mission:Win
Set formal objective 1 status to "Success"

I have no switches or counters in this mission. I think the first part might be wrong... it should say "For Side ONE", the player? Im gonna go test that.

S

crakerz · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 9:27 pm Post subject:

Who is your opponent? Side 4? If so, then that is who you put. Also, you don't need to check the box for an item if you don't actually ever build it (like replicators). Usually, simply clicking the All Units works.

Secondly, I'm not sure if the "Set formal objective 1 status to "Success" " shouldn't be before the End Mission action. I think End Mission Ends it immediately.

GNandGS · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 9:49 pm Post subject:

**Started writing this before I saw your post - yes, side 4 is computer/opponent.**

Dang. I suck at mission authoring. It would appear that what I need to do is set the trigger FOR human player, conditions FOR computer player.

I just tested and got it working with just one enemy unit by:

For Side 1 (note the change here!)
Condition is for Side 4
Side 4 owns AT MOST (another change) 0 units.

I had used units never built because at the time I wasnt sure how I would finish things up.

I'll follow your other suggestions and get this fixed ASAP. Thanks!

crakerz · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 9:53 pm Post subject:

Using "at the most" shouldn't make a diff - I use "exactly 0" all the time.

Try to look at the sample missions for ideas

GNandGS · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 11:22 pm Post subject:

Thanks for all the help guys! Just spent 48 minutes on it (could be done much faster) trying to dupe what others might.

ALL WENT WELL! It isnt good enuf to warrant all this time but too late for that!

Thanks again.

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