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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wonderer wrote:
Let's hope scottlu and Nate are ready for the /report spam attack Twisted Evil

I have a question so your going to try to have it so all we do is type /report or something.

So if I see a problem in the chat room and I type / what ever what's going to happen?
Like do you or Nate get a message telling you have a chat room problem?

Or do the players have to type the /report and have to login into the forums and message both of you so you can look into it? ( cause alot of players don't vist the forums from what I heard)

And how do we know if you ever got the alert? Will you be sending us a message saying you got the alert from the chat room?


When you do a /report, a marker will get written to the log, like a bookmark with your name on it, so that it can be found easily later.

The /report doesn't mail or alert anyone. You need to PM and tell us what the problem is, then we can look and we will have all the info in the log.

I hope it isn't a flood of PMs, or if it is, that it settles down after awhile. We'll see how it goes.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Current plan is to not log chat in private rooms or games. Does that seem reasonable? I won't be able to see bad behavior there, so if you'd like to do /report from those places, let me know and I'll consider logging those too.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say it's better not to. only cause you don't want anyone looking at what your talking about.(clan talk and friend talk)

If anything the people who don't like what's being said they can leave.

I see a loop hole know Twisted Evil

You make it so the comand doesn't work in the private rooms.
But I make the room private with the password in the tittle of the room.
So anyone can enter and but they can't use the comand.

A mod enters the private room and starts muting players for cursing then who's to blame sinces it is "a private room" but the comand doesn't work so then a new topic is made talking about mods entering a mod free zone Smile

I don't think you answered my question scottlu. Can other players use the comand on other players or is this comand just for telling on mods?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wonderer wrote:
I say it's better not to. only cause you don't want anyone looking at what your talking about.(clan talk and friend talk)

If anything the people who don't like what's being said they can leave.

I see a loop hole know Twisted Evil

You make it so the comand doesn't work in the private rooms.
But I make the room private with the password in the tittle of the room.
So anyone can enter and but they can't use the comand.

A mod enters the private room and starts muting players for cursing then who's to blame sinces it is "a private room" but the comand doesn't work so then a new topic is made talking about mods entering a mod free zone Smile

I don't think you answered my question scottlu. Can other players use the comand on other players or is this comand just for telling on mods?


About the mod entering a private room because he knows the password and doing mod commands: let's wait to see if that ends up being a problem.

You can use /report for any situation, mods or players, if you think an admin needs to know about it. Ideally a mod is there that can help if it is one player verbally abusing another.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's say someone reports me will I get a message?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody gets a message. It just writes a bookmark in the log. If someone uses it because of some incident then tells an admin, the admin can go take a look, and find that bookmark, and see what happened at that point in the log.

Maybe it should be named different? It's more of a bookmark in the log, than a report. Is /bookmark, or /mark better?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But then whats the point of reporting on any player that isn't a mod? Will you ban them or kick them for so many days?

If you notice flip(I think that's his account name) posts about "imsorry" and If the flip person typed the comand in and sent you message what would happen to "imsorry"?

Kick?
ban?
nothing?

I dont see a point if your not going to do anything about it.
(I'm just using imsorry as a current example)

Maybe you should name it /snitch or /tattle

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

May i suggest?
I think this was brought out before,
Why dont we have private rooms wer the mods has
No power on it, is that simple?
Instead of reporting, checkin logs
Etc etc and leaving only the filters,
If i make my own private room,
It means totally "private" that when a mod
Tries to enter it totally shut down
His commands.
Is that possible to do?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duc Van Java wrote:
May i suggest?
I think this was brought out before,
Why dont we have private rooms wer the mods has
No power on it, is that simple?
Instead of reporting, checkin logs
Etc etc and leaving only the filters,
If i make my own private room,
It means totally "private" that when a mod
Tries to enter it totally shut down
His commands.
Is that possible to do?
This was discussed before; mods are not supposed to come into private rooms and moderate them anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wonderer wrote:
But then whats the point of reporting on any player that isn't a mod? Will you ban them or kick them for so many days?

If you notice flip(I think that's his account name) posts about "imsorry" and If the flip person typed the comand in and sent you message what would happen to "imsorry"?

Kick?
ban?
nothing?

I dont see a point if your not going to do anything about it.
(I'm just using imsorry as a current example)

Maybe you should name it /snitch or /tattle


Our jobs as admins and mods is to make the game a safe and fun place to play and be part of the community. There is no change in that responsibility. The difference is that the chat log tells us what was happening during one of these incidents in full detail. It won't be two people accusing each other, or one person accusing and the other denying. The log will tell it all.

/snitch and /tattle are both good names.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trineroks wrote:
Duc Van Java wrote:
May i suggest?
I think this was brought out before,
Why dont we have private rooms wer the mods has
No power on it, is that simple?
Instead of reporting, checkin logs
Etc etc and leaving only the filters,
If i make my own private room,
It means totally "private" that when a mod
Tries to enter it totally shut down
His commands.
Is that possible to do?
This was discussed before; mods are not supposed to come into private rooms and moderate them anyway.


Isn't it easier to make a private room and not share the password with the mods? Then the mod can't get in. Or is it that you want the filter to be turned off?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trineroks wrote:
Duc Van Java wrote:
May i suggest?
I think this was brought out before,
Why dont we have private rooms wer the mods has
No power on it, is that simple?
Instead of reporting, checkin logs
Etc etc and leaving only the filters,
If i make my own private room,
It means totally "private" that when a mod
Tries to enter it totally shut down
His commands.
Is that possible to do?
This was discussed before; mods are not supposed to come into private rooms and moderate them anyway.


to trine:Mods are not supposed to,
But it already happend, if im not mistaken this happened to wondy
To scott:mods has the power to see passwords on a private room,
I was saying leave the filter and take of the power of a mod when he tries
To enter in a private room..
U feel me?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it was dr. Diggles who made the room cause he got muted in the other chat room so he made a new room. Then I was in their talking with him he was making jokes and cursing then I think it was n104!!! Entered the room he tried to make diggles stop cursing. Then n104!!! Left and brought a chat mood to the room and laid down the law which pissed us off.

The room wasn't priavte.

How fun would it had been if diggles(if it was him) would had been the only person in the room?

The mod was asked to leave and n104!!!(if it was him) Was asked to leave too

If you make a room with only a filter and no mod can mute or kick anyone you will see that would stop help everyone.

What if you made a locked room so it won't disappear and you posted the password on the forum. It would still be a "private room" since not everyone saw that post. Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duc Van Java wrote:
trineroks wrote:
Duc Van Java wrote:
May i suggest?
I think this was brought out before,
Why dont we have private rooms wer the mods has
No power on it, is that simple?
Instead of reporting, checkin logs
Etc etc and leaving only the filters,
If i make my own private room,
It means totally "private" that when a mod
Tries to enter it totally shut down
His commands.
Is that possible to do?
This was discussed before; mods are not supposed to come into private rooms and moderate them anyway.


to trine:Mods are not supposed to,
But it already happend, if im not mistaken this happened to wondy
To scott:mods has the power to see passwords on a private room,
I was saying leave the filter and take of the power of a mod when he tries
To enter in a private room..
U feel me?


Mods can't see the passwords to private rooms. They could only know it if somebody told them, or if the password were posted publicly.

Given this, do private rooms already give you what you want?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im sorry my bad,
Let me revise my suggestion,
I was saying that this "private room"
What i mean is adding another room to
The lobby(if possible) that totaly dis ableling mods
commands or mods cannot interfere
And letting only the filter works on his own.
U following me scott?
Im sorry for my english for not that fluent.

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