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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all now that viet pride isn't going to take javas throw away members cause they didn't make the cut for the final ten.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm active in vp too golden
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry.

And Wolfy too Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:31 pm    Post subject: The main point Reply with quote

Golden wrote:
Also I think 8 Would be a better number.
Let's not get too fancy with numbers here. We could make it a max of 15 players if we wanted to. We can discuss numbers after we agree on the main idea.

The point is this: do clans want to have a limit on the number of players that are allowed to be in their clan? Doing this would maximize the amount of clan competition, however, clans may not want to be regulated. If clan leaders want to have complete dictation over their clan members, then so be it. Being a clan leader is similar to leading (and sometimes controlling) a small group of people in the way that you prefer. As long as it doesn't break the main rules of WI (Chat Room and forum behavior rules), then it's fine. However, setting a new rule to yourself may be challenging and may require to time to contemplate and process it. This is more a decision of the clan leaders than anyone else. If the clan leaders can come to a compliance, then the admins can surely support that decision. If not, then this idea is thrown into the drain waiting for another idea to arise. The big question I now ask to all clan leaders is this: do you want your member count to be limited in order to increase competition?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have the same philosophy it seems Golden. Just slight variations in the number of players. Perhaps tomorrow's friday chat can include a discussion on this, checking out the opinions of Scott, Sub, and Co.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a link to van javas regulations

http://www.warfareincorporated.com/xyzzy/viewtopic.php?t=5783&start=0

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Technically speaking, nobody wants to have regulatioms placed on them. It depends on whether they think it is best or not for the game as a whole. A group sacrifice.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: The main point Reply with quote

N@TE wrote:
Golden wrote:
Also I think 8 Would be a better number.
Let's not get too fancy with numbers here. We could make it a max of 15 players if we wanted to. We can discuss numbers after we agree to the main idea.

The point is this: do clans want to have a limit on the number of players that are allowed to be in their clan? Doing this would maximize the amount of clan competition, however, clans may not want to be regulated. If clan leaders want to have complete dictation over their clan members, then so be it. Being a clan leader is similar to leading (and sometimes controlling) a small group of people in the way that you prefer. As long as it doesn't break the main rules of WI (Chat Room and forum behavior rules), then it's fine. However, setting a new rule to yourself may be challenging and may require to time to contemplate and process it. This is more a decision of the clan leaders than anyone else. If the clan leaders can come to a compliance, then the admins can surely support that decision. If not, then this idea is thrown into the drain waiting for another idea to arise. The big question I now ask to all clan leaders is this: do you want your member count to be limited?


Yes!! This will contribute to:

-Clan ExclusivenessThis will basically make more clans because they will be more like cliques. More people will want to have their own exclusive clan.
Its like what america needs!! More smaller corperations and less BIG Generic industrailized ones



ALSO: PLease revive the 2 ID only idea!! PLEASE

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

redscorpion wrote:
We have the same philosophy it seems Golden. Just slight variations in the number of players. Perhaps tomorrow's friday chat can include a discussion on this, checking out the opinions of Scott, Sub, and Co.


Can you make it saturday? I wont be back at my houose with wifi ny friday

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How are u posting this then, this is an internet based forum and to acess the internet from a mobile device u need wifi, 3g, a connector to an internet port, or a mobile hotspot
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wonderer wrote:
Blake you missed kempa in your list

"but i would like to change that to 10 active members"

yeah me to but if their not active then thats nothing I can do since they don't say they want to leave the clan. and imnot about to kick any of my members for not being active for a none paying game.

ducati isn't acitve cause he plays a few games so his points don't drop and mole and kempa and warkilla just came back into the picture how long do you think they will stay and rule and brain van java when was the last time you see them play. so what you are saying." but i would like to change that to 10 active members" brain and rull should be kicked out is that what you are saying Blake?



No they should stay, what i mean is that you can have as many inactive members as you like, but as the conversation jas carried on i realized i co pletley oppose clan regulations... And kemp has not officially cleared all tryouts and made a van java acc so i did not put him up

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Golden wrote:
redscorpion wrote:
We have the same philosophy it seems Golden. Just slight variations in the number of players. Perhaps tomorrow's friday chat can include a discussion on this, checking out the opinions of Scott, Sub, and Co.


Can you make it saturday? I wont be back at my houose with wifi ny friday


Saturday works. I'll need to start getting my ID's up Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blake van java wrote:
How are u posting this then, this is an internet based forum and to acess the internet from a mobile device u need wifi, 3g, a connector to an internet port, or a mobile hotspot


Theres no wifi where im at lol

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then how u on the internet?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't hate van java or Viet. These clans are what they are now because top players decided to create a clan and other top players join.

Bu all clans start small before they are big.

Viet has largely just another clan for a long time before Wonderer join vp, van java was largely inactive except for mole and no one wanted to join until I join van java.

All clans go through rough patches and always start small but if stay with the clan through the rough patches that clan can become big.

Red if you are annoyed about our dominance you should have stayed with your clan and help it to attract top players. It is for this exact reason other clans are not attracting big players because when there is a problem top players leave.

Don't hate clans.

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