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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wonderer wrote:
yea when enforcer started kilik and Nate both took screan shoots and sent it to scottlu saying I was cheating bye teaming up with anon, and both saying I was the anon they thought I had two devices. the crazy thing I played one game with kilik and that was enough to send scottlu pics.

but teaming up with anon is consider cheating (lol no one ever wants to team up with me when I'm anon.)


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is doing a 2v2 with utself on the same team cheating? All it means is slower building ect
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't now about a 2vs2 but an FFA map you could have the advantage if you only want one of the accounts to win. it's not strange to see some people not build from the start.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would only be cheating If u were using 2 acc not an acc and an anon
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lawrence: playing 2v2 with a friend logged in as anon to get more points is a form of score pumping and is banned. I asked Scott about this when I saw someone doing it and he confirmed and warned guilty party.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it is pumping with in the right scenario.
The scenarios are:

2 registered players are in a 2v2 game (Player A and Player B), Player A on one side with an anon who is his clan buddy, an anon with player B who is his other clan buddy.

Now we all gang up on Player B (anon doesn't attack or defend). That is pumping because the game is being thrown, because by pre-arrangement, the win has already been decided.

Another variant is: Player A's ally is a random player (registered), and Player A's clan buddy is your ally playing as anon, but he doesn't defend you on purpose. (kind of the same thing as the first scenario.)

If you are suspected of this, it will be investigated.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: An easy way to win Reply with quote

kou wrote:
1. 2v2 main acct & partner use anon vs Enemy & Enemy
2. 2v2 main acct & partner vs other acct & Enemy (need 2 iphone)
3. 2v2 main acct & partner vs partner & Enemy (on purpose the defeat)
4. FFA main acct vs partner use anon vs Enemy vs Enemy
5. FFA main acct vs partner vs Enemy vs Enemy
6. FFA main acct vs other acct vs Enemy vs Enemy (need 2 iphone)

I see what your saying and you are correct. But take a hard look at what kou has said " main acc and partner use anon vs enemy and enemy" since when was being an anon and playing a 2v2 cheating?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's if you do it so much it's becomes noticeable remeber BiT they was doing it on balance or terror map(bot) if you sit on a map all day saying all anons must leave but this one.(that's what _______ does it's gets annoying) then makes players look into your maps you have played and we see the pattern.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But if you have an anon on your team
then how is that cheating if you and the anon (partner) do not have control over the opposing players?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all I can say is. that Wonderer said "it's if you do it so much it's becomes noticeable remeber BiT they was doing it on balance or terror map(bot)"

"if you sit on a map all day saying all anons must leave but this one"

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Explanation cheat by cheat Reply with quote

kou wrote:
1. 2v2 main acct & partner use anon vs Enemy & Enemy
2. 2v2 main acct & partner vs other acct & Enemy (need 2 iphone)
3. 2v2 main acct & partner vs partner & Enemy (on purpose the defeat)
4. FFA main acct vs partner use anon vs Enemy vs Enemy
5. FFA main acct vs partner vs Enemy vs Enemy
6. FFA main acct vs other acct vs Enemy vs Enemy (need 2 iphone)
I will now explain how each one is cheating, as there is a surprising amount of confusion over this.

1. This is really only cheating if you know who the anon is, they are a skilled player, and they are anonized for a cheating reason. In pretty much any other scenario it is not cheating. It is cheating because when you play a 2v2 with an anon partner, you get all of the points if you win, and lose all of the points if you lose.
2. It is the same person, therefore you know what your partner's exact move is because they are you! This would require some extra skill and practice, but you would be able to pull it off, and it counts as cheating in my book.
3. What kou is saying here, is that it would be a 2v2, only more of a 3v1. The partner for the enemy would be on a separate account or anon, and would be acquaintance with the other team. He wouldn't attack the other team, and would try to block off his partner(the enemy). It would be a 2v2 with a spy partner on the other team.
4. This one is ganging up. Two people wouldn't attack each other, and would be in acquaintance with each other, against two other people who would attack each other and wouldn't be in acquaintance with each other. In numeric form, a 2v1v1.
5. This is basically #4 only with the partner on a secondary account I suppose.
6. I think of this one as a mixture between #2 and #4. You would be using two devices as two people, but really one in real life to fight the other two people. You obviously wouldn't attack yourself, and would be teaming up. This would be extremely difficult, as well as far more challenging as #2. Even so, like #2, it is possible and it is cheating.

I hope this helps! If you have any more questions, or need a further explanation of any of these or my explanations, please let me know!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

n@te thx.
and others thx.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm yes I understand. I was confused about whether the partner would try to go against you. I still find the scoring system confusing though. Ima gonna go research.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mmm I like it when Nate always explains and clears up all confusion in different topics. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's the human WI encyclopedia Smile
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