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scottlu
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:10 am    Post subject: ABOUT MP CHEATING Reply with quote

We've had a lot of discussion lately about score pumping. This has to stop to keep the leaderboard healthy, otherwise the leaderboard is a sham.

I am going to try various ways to address this. The first way will be to auto-discover score pumped games, and not give points to the winner of said games. If this doesn't work, my next plan is to go to 1 ID per player path.

Until this automated system is in place, I am putting suspected score pumpers into quarantine, to restore health to the leaderboard. When in quarantine, the account is still active, however it won't be visible in the leaderboard. When the automated system is in place, it will determine this automatically.

There are a couple of ways to get out of quarantine:

a. play legit games until 98% of your games are not score pumped games.
b. reset your account to 1500. Send me a PM for this.

Any questions, please post here. I'm sorry if your account was quarantined by accident, I'm sure this will happen occasionally. Please bear with me, and send me a PM.

Again, score pumping needs to stop in order to restore fair competition to the leaderboard.

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good one scott Very Happy Very Happy nice
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehehe I was like low 30's now I'm a teen lollollol cheaters

Scottlu said "When in quarantine, the account is still active, however it won't be visible in the leaderboard."

so they still and gain points I hope that's what it means. Sad And if I beat them I get their many points right.

Let me help the bit out play the bots maps again and play with your anon members to get your spot back(you done it before but that's not cheating.)

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:41 am    Post subject: YAY Reply with quote

Yaay! Finally no more cheaters! Lol I moved up like 20 ranks on the leaderboard Razz. Btw what's the *** before the "about" on this topic name? Did Scott swear Shocked? Now I think it's time to get a rule for those one map players, like Stone88. Stone is #3 but he just plays BoT all day and night, no other maps. Thanks for getting rid of those cheaters Scott!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahaha me and Nate think alike we wrote at the same time. :-/
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im now with both acc's in the top 25. Very Happy
but scott, i would reset their acc's. For example: they take a new acc and every bit play with his acc one time against him and they let him win( new acc), he can get in 10 games without problems 200 points and when he have 1900 and they cheat he has in the end 2100 points and thats again an art of cheating. I hope u understand it Very Happy so i would reset their acc( from all player, not only the bit)

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scottlu
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack I see what you're saying. Let me think about it today.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do we know how many percent we have until we get to 98% not score pumped?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm writing the software to determine that right now. More info soon.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one Scott, I'm bit shocked at the extent of it, not just a couple of people then
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally we can put a STOP to this problem :) :) :) :)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wat did i tell u about reset? Look warkillas last game. Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing
I'm curious to see how your going to stop ppl from having more than one account since each account is registered with different email address. you can block IP addresses but that tends to create more problems than solving it, like blocking other legit players from the same IP address area from playing.

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Major Miner
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would avoid limiting it to one account. I have two- Major Miner and Miner- and it's not to cheat, it's because I SUCKED A$$ at first (as Major Miner) and now I'm dragging all that early losing along with me <grin>. I made Miner as an account to focus on rating (not play new maps, etc.).

Put another way, if a person cares at all about rating, and let's face it anyone reading this thread cares, it leads to never playing new maps, never playing 2v2 unless you have a great partner, etc. If people have multiple accounts they can learn with one and kick butt with the other.

Or that's my theory anyway. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if you had one account, but when you created a game, you could either make it a scoring game, or a non-scoring game?
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